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Paddy 15 December 2009, 12:56pm |
If you are stumped about something and need some insight, an answer, a resource or some suggestions about any extra-curricular or extended services questions or issues you are dealing with, this is a forum thread where you can ask your questions. We'll try and get you a response to whatever you ask as soon as possible. |
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elizabethbailey
15 December 2009, 2:20pm |
Hi. I run an after school 'homework club' for local Bangladeshi/Pakistani children. Has anyone got any ideas to get parents involved other than leaving their kids with us. We are a non-profit making organisation with strong community links and building links with local mainstream schools, but parents seem reluctant to engage with their kids learning - our funding depends on parental (especially fathers) engagement, but most are reluctant to get involved even though we have blingual staff - any ideas welcome |
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Paddy 16 December 2009, 11:37am |
Hi Elizabeth - about getting parents more involved in their children's learning, here's a start: In December 2007, I spoke with a great learning mentor, Khaleda Begum, at Smithy Street School in Stepney Green, London about how the school was progressing its extended services. She said that the school has a strong policy about attendance and punctuality. So, every day, one of her tasks is to stand at the school gate just before school starts and also at the end of the day when parents are picking up their children. She speaks Sylheti, the Bengali dialect spoken by many people in East London, which helps a lot, of course. The main message I took from my conversation with Khaleda was that it takes a deliberate strategy sometimes for parents to absorb the message that their children’s education matters. As she says at the end of the article: ‘…the link with parents is so important – it’s like they are our partners – they are the primary educators – we come second. But we need to work together and be consistent for the children to succeed.’ So I've attached the article about Khaleda's work (from Schools ETC magazine) for you here. Also, would it be useful to use a series of family learning sessions combined with study support or even maths homework. I don't think this forum facility allows me to upload TWO articles at once, so in the post below this one, I’ll attach also attach a useful article called Maths with Mum and Dad (unfortunately not in colour – but it was the exact version that went to press), which might help you to explore some options. A partnership with the organisation that runs the Ocean Maths Model, which is used in Tower Hamlets might be worth considering. I guess it’s important, though, to canvas the parents carefully about what they might want or need at such sessions. But making that first contact and keeping it up is essential. Work with the school leadership to help you make contact with parents and find out what they want - and tap into the ways in which the school may be encouraging parents' participation at the school in other ways. I'm no expert, but I hope that's useful as a start. And View attachment
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Paddy 16 December 2009, 11:41am |
Elizabeth: here is the article I mentioned in the post above: Maths with Mum and Dad View attachment
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Kettering Rural
17 December 2009, 10:02am |
Hi I wrote a piece earlier about being a new ESCO and it disappeared. I'll do it again, in a blog perhaps - but I'm relieved that there is a forum here for people like me. I have to go to a meeting now but I will spread the word about The Learning Exchange to my fellow ESCOs. Thank you for your help Paddy! |
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Paddy 22 December 2009, 2:54pm |
On the subject of reaching the so-called hard-to-reach groups in our communities, log in to read member Martyn Davies' blog post called Hard to reach families dated Nov. 27. You may want to ask him for some ideas - if you have any of your own, please pass them on to Martyn. Also, please post them to this forum thread. In the meantime, here are some thoughts that fit here quite nicely. The other day, when mulling over Elizabeth's question, I recalled how often people have said to me that when they've wanted to reach 'hard-to-reach' groups, that as the 'reachers' it has sometimes been quite effective to take a more oblique approach first, which gets them closer to what the originally wanted to achieve. I then remembered what Debbie McMillan from Gloucestershire Council's SHAPE team recently said to me when I was researching an article. I've quoted her here: Sometimes, going in through a 'back door' gets people where you'd like them to be quicker. Anyway - worth a try? I've attached the article - it's called Supporting parents. View attachment
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Claire A 08 January 2010, 4:51pm |
Hi, Which are is your school based. There could be a possibility of linking up with an exsisting Supplementary School who may be able to help. They often engage parents in order for them to run ie volunteers. Also you could build a partnership with one which would look good on any reports and help improve links with the community. If you drop me an email I'll have a look for you. Claire |
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escojohnb 20 January 2010, 7:28pm |
Hello all the schools in my cluster have began to have pupils from Eastern Europe and the schools would like to engage with parents. Have any of you done any work with the community and what has worked. |
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Paddy 21 January 2010, 12:17pm |
Hello escojohnb: I don' know about other Eastern European groups, but I think there are sixty or so Polish supplementary schools now - not sure if any are in your area though. But, you might want to try sending a message on the members of Learning Exchange - either Pascale Vassie or Claire Arthur could help you. Also, have a chat with someone at the Polish Educational Society at 020 8745 1993 (they're based in Hammersmith, London). Good luck. |
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kayeroe
21 January 2010, 12:41pm |
Hi I wonder if anyone out there knows where I could find an example of an 'Extended Services Policy' for schools? |
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Paddy 22 January 2010, 11:26am |
Hi Kaye - you might want to try Hamilton Community College in Leicester - a colleague recently suggested that they have a good policy and probably won't mind sharing it with you. Another member of the Learning Exchange, Chris Loach, has recently asked the same question. Go to the Members Hub and type 'Chris' into the Find (search name facility) and perhaps you might like to send him a message via the Learning Exchange - he may have struck other policies and forgotten to post them into his blog. Let us know how you get on? Beauchamp College in Leicester may also be able to help. |
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Kettering Rural
02 March 2010, 2:56pm |
I would like some help please to find the most effective method of managing the Extended Services funding allocation within the Cluster, to quote Hilary Emery “ it is imperative that schools design and evaluate their extended services to achieve maximum quality and impact..” The following questions are based on the assumption that an action plan has been prepared and approved by the Cluster.
· How should the funding be allocated – should it be held by the fund holder school or some of it shared out to schools? · Is it up to the ESCO to decide or should it be the Headteachers? · How do we avoid schools being ‘victims of their own success’ by using their own resources for ES in the past and missing out to schools which have not made the effort to improve ES provision before? · How do we have a clear paper trail to check that the funding has been spent correctly/efficiently?
Thanks in anticipation.
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Jo 03 March 2010, 10:47am |
Hi there When I was a cluster manager of 14 schools, the money inituially was held by the LA and schools bid for funding, on a first come first served basis, that would develop activities to help deliver their core offer. After a couple of years the cluster collectively agreed that one school would hold the money which in our case was one of the secondary schools. At the annual development planning meeting it was agreed in principle to split the funding over the key areas of the core offer that needed developing across the cluster (they mostly think cluster wide not school focussed) . This wasnt set in stone but was an indication of where money should be spent. So for example the cluster felt that parenting support and community access were common areas that needed more resource so agreed that the PSA money would be spend on a cluster wide parent support worker as well as one based in the school it was felt had the most need. One of the scools expressed a desire to enhance their breakfast table tennis club and develop a community based club after school and so bid for funding to do this and worked with the primaries to maximise the opportunity. As the ESCo I could give an overview of what access to ES activity looked like across the cluster and help idenify gaps, it was then the collective decision of the cluster (I didnt vote) as to what they went with. The decision makers were whomever was at the meeting that the decision was taken and that was written into the terms of reference. So for some schools attending it might have been the head but not always as they ofetn delegated ES to soemone else. In our cluster not only were the schools incolved in the decisions but the locality coordinator, youthe service and chidlerns centre. We had a clear bidding process and asked for reports back on how money was spent. One school identified it wanted to run a breakfast club and bid for funding which the cluster agreed however the take up was nil and so the cluster took the money back and used it elsewhere! |
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Paddy 04 March 2010, 12:37pm |
Thanks for responding so quickly Jo! Kettering Rural: I've put out a request to all our regional development managers to look at your question on this forum - I hope more responses come in. |
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Kettering Rural
08 March 2010, 8:00am |
Thank you Jo - your advice is really helpful and I will take it back to my Cluster. I just want to help my Cluster to get the optimum use out of the ES funding. Kind regards Helen |
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Jo 08 March 2010, 2:35pm |
You're welcome Helen, I just wish I had proof read before posting as there are so many typos in the thing! Do let us know how your cluster decides to go forward. |
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susantroilett
11 March 2010, 10:28am |
Hi everyone
Does anyone have any experience / feedback about using private organisations to deliver after school maths clubs? In fact, any good examples at all of school after school maths clubs? [I am particularly interested in after school maths for primary schools]. Thanks for any information anyone has. Susan |
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Paddy 11 March 2010, 3:03pm |
hi Susan - last year, we published an article in Schools ETC magazine about improving maths through extended services. When I can find it, I will attach it here for you. In the meantime, try Ocean Maths at www.ocean-maths.org.uk. All the best! |
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Paddy 11 March 2010, 3:11pm |
found it! here you go Susan - it's called Maths with Mum and Dad. View attachment
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susantroilett
12 March 2010, 3:54pm |
Thanks Paddy - very helpful information. ... if anyone has any other suggestions, or relevant experiences, I would be very grateful to hear about them. Thanks again Susan |
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